Episode 33

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Published on:

15th Sep 2025

Rob Hammett - Founder of TheModernShopper.com & Former Justuno OG

In this conversation, Rob and Erik discuss the challenges and strategies in e-commerce marketing, focusing on user engagement, conversion optimization, and the importance of a unified approach in agency operations. Rob shares insights from his experience with The Modern Shopper, emphasizing the need for effective use of pop-ups and CRO tools, the significance of understanding customer behavior, and the impact of market uncertainty on marketing strategies. They explore the balance between achieving KPIs and maintaining quality leads, as well as the importance of retargeting existing customers to maximize conversion rates.

Takeaways

  • People are averse to pop-ups, affecting engagement rates.
  • Long-term user experience should be prioritized over short-term metrics.
  • E-commerce teams often lack focus on effective email pop-up usage.
  • Traffic activation is crucial for conversion success.
  • Agencies need streamlined operations to manage multiple clients.
  • Modern Shopper aims to ease the burden on marketing teams.
  • Trust and reliability are key in client relationships.
  • Quality leads are more valuable than sheer quantity.
  • User experience principles should guide marketing strategies.
  • Market uncertainty requires brands to adapt their strategies.

Chapters

01:30 The Importance of User Experience in Growth Marketing

04:22 Identifying and Solving E-commerce Challenges

07:26 Leveraging Owned Media Channels for E-commerce Success

10:19 The Role of Lifecycle Teams in E-commerce

13:20 Understanding the Impact of Uncertainty in E-commerce

16:19 Optimizing Customer Retention Strategies

19:38 The Psychology of Consumer Engagement

22:29 Preparing for Seasonal Sales and Promotions

25:37 Maximizing Traffic and Conversion Rates

28:24 Visitor Identification and Its Implications

31:43 The Future of E-commerce Tools and Strategies

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Hosted by Erik Christiansen, CEO & Co-Founder of Justuno.

Erik’s Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikc/

About our Host, Erik Christiansen:
Co-Founder & CEO of Justuno, the leading onsite conversion platform for businesses. Justuno’s mission Is to empower marketers and growing brands in every vertical through first and zero-party data collection, list building, personalized messaging, and sales.

Having built Sierrasnowboard.com from $0 to $24M in annual revenue, Erik’s hope is to help more brands achieve this sustainable growth through an improved onsite experience, focused on thoughtful conversions.

Justuno is used by over 133,000 brands who experience an average 135% increase in revenue in their first year and has influenced $10B+ in sales.

Learn more at https://www.justuno.com

About your host

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Erik Christiansen

Co-Founder & CEO of Justuno, the leading onsite conversion platform for businesses. Justuno’s mission Is to empower marketers and growing brands in every vertical through first and zero-party data collection, list building, personalized messaging, and sales.

Having built Sierrasnowboard.com from $0 to $24M in annual revenue, Erik’s hope is to help more brands achieve this sustainable growth through an improved onsite experience, focused on thoughtful conversions.

Justuno is used by over 133,000 brands who experience an average 135% increase in revenue in their first year and has influenced $10B+ in sales.